Mike and Steve interview classmate Jennifer Graef Kramer and they discuss donating hair, what to wear while skiing, running a play cafe business, and “taking eleven years to become a parent.” (recorded Sept 21st 2022).
Here is Jenn now:
Episode #42: Jennifer Graef Kramer
Mike and Steve 
Excellent….one of your best.
What happen to Episode #39?
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Thanks! hmmm.. good point about #39. I didn’t notice this – it seems to have slipped through the cracks. Maybe we could interview you for #39?
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Or I could interview you and Steve, behind the scenes in the making of this podcast! ________________________________
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